Has anyone lived in a GFC for an extended period?

The awing cost about $120 on Amazon. I can set it up in about 5 minutes now that I’ve done it a couple of times. I replaced the tensioners with Nite Ize cam jams and I’ve ordered new poles to replace the laughably cheap ones that come with it.

Storage became a real pain as time went on. Just before the cap went on, I bought 4 good sized Home Depot plastic tubs. The problem was the were all exactly alike. I had to open a couple before I found what I was looking for. I finally marked them with painters tape to tell them apart. But digging through tubs to get to stuff got old fast. At the moment, I’m using milk crates and molle panels for storage in the bed. It’s just temporary to see if I really want to put the money into a home built goose gear type of system. I’ll take some photos this afternoon and post them.

I’m between jobs at the moment. I write code for a living. One of my goals for my upcoming trip is to see if I really can work from the truck. Pre-covid that might have been a hard gig to land but now… I might be able to do it. But it also might drive me crazy working from a truck. Where ever I am, I’ll have to have a solid wifi connection. That rules out a lot of great camping areas.

I lived in this shortbed for 6 months while traveling the country. I don’t see why you couldn’t do the same in a GFC. Less is more. I kept my clothes in a duffel in the cab and all my gear underneath the sleeping platform. I had plenty of room for an additional passenger or two.

I did stealth camp while in metro areas. You could do the same in the gfc with the tent down.

Like I s,aid less is more. The kiss (keep it stupid simple) method is what I live by.

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I work as a software designer/developer and am able to work 3 days a week remote just using my normal Verizon plan hotspot with 15gb. I was shocked at how little data I could use if I was doing dev work and careful. So don’t rule out those cool working spots!

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We’ve fairly regularly done 6+ week trips out of our little truck as a family of 3 for several years while working remotely. Both out of the GFC and our old craigslist camper shell. With the GFC and setting things up to maximize interior space for inclement weather stints being the best things we upgraded to make it “livable” long term, but we still get soft every 10-14 days and do a reset in a hotel.

Flying solo should make it more easily achieveable and more sustainable long-term. Like @GFCnortheast said K.I.S.S. is the key.

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That sounds amazing. I would love to do something like that.

Obviously just my opinion…Living in a van/motorhome is a totally different thing than the GFC. If you want to do van life, get a van. If you want to 4 wheel off-road to a secluded spot and set up camp for a couple days off grid, get a GFC. If you want to party at a bluegrass festival for a week get a 1973 GMC Painted Desert.

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I live out of my truck (DCSB) through the summers for around 3+ months at a time as a wildlife biologist and a few months in the winter. It works out that I need the truck because my survey areas are across the Great Basin area and almost all of the roads I use are unmaintained. A lot of the roads can be driven by most high clearance vehicles, but It helps to climb the steeper roads when I can to shorten up my survey time. The GFC is new to me this summer season but the truck life is not; and much needed for me because of the unpredictable weather and roads. I need to be able to pack up and leave to the next location very quickly and this is every day.

You can do all this with a van, minus the steep remote locations. You should weigh in the the van/truck decision on what you seek to do and how often you plan to be in the areas you desire to adventure to. Living in the GFC has not been that difficult. Quite easy, but I am a solo 100% of the time. I leave sleeping gear stored above in the closed wedge and an organized food/storage system below. I leave valuables like most gear and most clothes in the cab so I can have the back to be mostly just living space. I could see it possibly getting a little more cramped with 2+ people for extended living situations if you don’t have your kit dialed down to a minimum comfort. But by myself, I can bring everything i need with me. Hope this helps :+1: let me know if you got any questions.

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Obviously it’s different. That’s the whole point of this question…

Idk man I thought the same thing with not wanting a van n using my truck but pretty much…after upgrading it to be livable I would just recommend a van u got to think about waking up early n having to move the bed around to get changed then closing it all up the actual space u got for chilling with a female…the heater, a fan plus adding a refegerator and a electricity system takes a lot of space then clothes n cooking… your shower has to be outside so I definitely will end up in not so enjoy able weather… a van is way more suitable for all that shit… I got mine hooked up pretty good though just way different n your gonna not end up with the same comfort… your got to have a bed rug for water n dust for sure definitely need a heater n a fan I thew alot in it to make it the best living space I could but ya u loose comfort going that route.so I would say with all I spent I easily could have had a dope van build…but at the same time all my shits payed off so I grind it out n loose a lil of the comfort do one traveling construction job my savings back set up.

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I lived in mine for 20 months and have slept in it over 500 nights since I picked it up 3 years ago

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Do you have any photos of your setup?

Left side behind the fridge is dry food storage and faucet. Far left back contains a kariba water heater, tub, towels, water shoes. Back center has 13 gallon water tank.

Right back side has all propane related stuff. Propex heater and partner steel stove

The power tank was replaced with a hidden compressor and that space is more storage.

I also deleted my backseat for more space

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20 months is rad! :metal:

I’m at 8 weeks, going to keep going for at least a couple more months. My GFC/very minimal bed setup has been working well. Just a few things I would change if I were to have more time to prepare. Keep it simple.

That was probably me. Lived in mine on/off for about 9 or 10 months since June of 2020. I spent new years to Feb 15th in Yellowstone and my water was always frozen and there were only a handful of days that temps went above 0F. Learned a lot of tricks, especially from the winter days.

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Please share these winter tips :ok_hand:t2: I’m a few weeks, hopefully, away from getting mine. I intend on using it this winter ski touring and base camping for work. I have a diesel heater setup that I use now, so just planning the retrofit to get that to work with the gfc.

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Also interested in winter tips! Like Dignon im also hoping to use as a basecamp for skiing adventures.

Cody Townsend has a cool YouTube video showing his GFC setup on a 2019 Ford Ranger. He’s got some good winter tips in it.

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Heres some notes from my experience winter camping. I was in Yellowstone for wildlife photography and was up at 5am driving into the national park, staying all day and driving out after dark to USFS road to camp. Living in a 5ft bed is no walk in the park and being prepared for anything, staying well organized and having all you need to be comfortable without overpacking is the difference that can make months on the road enjoyable. Being on the road can get rough, especially getting past the first week if its a long term trip and especially in winter. If your not organized, self sufficient, comfortable and well prepared then its really easy to call a trip short and just go home. Hopefully some of my tips / experiences below can get the ideas rolling and help out a little bit.

Battery / Charging: I have a goalzero in my truckbed and was driving a lot every day looking for wildlife. This kept my battery charged by night time and I also have two 100w solar panels on the roof. I didnt get much charge in Yellowstone but when i’m somewhere more remote and staying in one place for days on end the solar is essential. Batteries dont like the cold and goalzero lithium batteries specifically will not take in a charge if you let the battery get below 32deg. If it gets around -5 or -10 it wont let out a charge either. I started keeping the battery in the cab because it warms up faster in there with the charging cord to a 12v (which I normally had wired up in the bed) and every night I brought it back into the bed where I watched movies, used the lights, charged cameras. This twice a day battery shift became really annoying so I started keeping my campers battery in my yeti cooler and wired the solar and 12v into it with other things I didnt want frozen like eggs, fruit, a days worth of water, canned food, etc. To keep things in the cooler from freezing I boiled water and put it in there in a Nalgene water bottle. I got tired of the wires coming out of my cooler not being able to move it and eventually got a soft sided cooler the size of my battery with a easy access lid, mounted it up full time somewhere convenient and wired my cords into it. When it got cold too cold to take in a charge I used the hot water nalgene trick or ran my new diesel heater towards it (I got the heater on the tail end of the trip). Keep in mind the diesel heater takes a fair bit of electricity to run. If I didnt get my battery charged one night for whatever reason and wanted to run my heater or needed electricity for cameras I have some hanging AAA powered led’s and headlamps instead of the camper lights.

Warmth in the cold: I have both a -20 deg bag and a 15 deg bag as well as a nice jacket. In extreme colds I found wearing two sets of 250 merino base layers (long sleeve & long johns) works incredibly well. Dont kill yourself with a mr buddy or similar propane heater. Additionally my best friend has sewn together a thermal kit for his gfc. The idea behind it is a thick layer of fabric for a second tent wall that velcros in. He has yet to take it into winter but I bet it does really well. I also want to note that I dont have a fan and condensation has only ever been an issue a couple of nights out over a year of use. If your worried about that you can have a towel, keep a window open, or run a diesel heater.

About the diesel heater: A heater is a luxury and wont always be reliable (fuel, battery, cheap components.) Have nice equipment before you rely on a heater. If you do have one use with extreme caution. I have 2 carbon monoxide detectors and leave the little windows open for ventilation, even if the exhaust is well routed and even if it does seem too cold to do so. You don’t know if your in trouble because you cant smell it… I do sleep with it on if its around -20 outside.

A note about fuel: Take it from me, I spilt diesel in my truck bed every now and then trying to refuel my heater and kept both gasoline and diesel in the bed with me. Avoid fuel in your truck bed if your living in there at all costs. Its also simply dangerous. I cook and live in the bed and spills just suck. Nowadays I keep my fuel on the roof rack on the cab - thought about having it on a bumper swingout but my spare tire fits just fine under the bed, dont want to swing it open everytime I get in and I wouldnt want someone rear ending gas cans on my bumper.

GFC side panel and tent latches: These can freeze shut and its happened to me 3 times. Its only going to happen if there is a freeze when everything is still wet. You can lube all your locks and latches every couple months which will help with them freezing. If they do freeze run boiling water over them.

Water: I like my water in the cab in the winter as it thaws after a bit of driving around with the heater on. 1 gallon containers fit well behind the tacoma back seats and I have several back there. I have a 5 gallon water jug in the bed and in the summer I have 2-3 (thats including the gallon jugs in the cab). I use a lot less water in winter and more wetwipes (which freeze too) and paper towels or melt snow to do dishes.

Winter recovery: Roads close and shit happens. Be prepared to be stuck somewhere! Have enough of everything to survive for a few days in an emergency. This means sleeping bags, food, water, propane, gasoline, diesel, solar panels, etc. I also carry a garmin InReach for emergency communication anywhere. An emergency can be as simple as you getting snowed in on a trail or slipping off the road in a remote place. In winter I take it really slow after a couple of really close calls. When you do have a close call remember to pump the breaks and don’t overcompensate turning the wheel. I’m also in 4x4 full time if there is ice/snow on the road. This has saved me once when simply stopped at a light and someone is sliding into you - 4x4 is going to allow you to get out of the way fast. A full sized shovel, traction boards, winch, straps are essential. Protective steel bumpers could be the difference between totaling your truck or not and something i’ve since upgraded to. Emergencies dont just happen in your vehicle either, they could happen to you while away from the truck. I was hiking this winter in the forest in deep snow and had unknowingly walked over ice. I was just standing there on what I thought was solid ground when I just dropped into the water - clothes, shoes, camera and all. I couldn’t pull myself out on my own and all I could grab onto was powdery snow. Thankfully I was with someone who was able to take my hand and pull me out. He was a lot heavier than me and thankfully the ice didn’t break under him when he was pulling me. I had to get back to my truck and get in to warm clothes fast!

Thoughts on using a ladder: Winter camping made me realize how worthless my ladder was when you need all the living space you can get. If the truck bed is a mess and I don’t want to climb out the tailgate I just climb down the side and down the tire. For me it’s even easier than dealing with the ladder. When I have to pee at night I just climb down and stand on the tire and lean out holding onto the camper. If i’m not with someone its even easier as I just use a bottle.

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Awesome response and really useful information. if you had a Yellowstone winter vlog I would follow the hell out of it.

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Hi there. I know this is an old post, but I’m curious about your propane setup. Is that 10 lb tank or a 5 lb? How long did that last you running the stove and propex? Really awesome setup. Thanks!