Weatherizing Update

As those of you who have been communicating with our Service Team know, we’ve been actively investigating the cause of the water intrusion some campers have been experiencing. Water is a tricky beast so we’ve treated it as such by looking into more than just the obvious scenarios that could result in water inside the tent (a thing that is definitely not supposed to happen, just so you know). We’ve found that there are two primary root causes of potential water intrusion when the tent is closed:

  1. Pooling of water in the folds of the tent
  2. Inadequate drainage of the roof beams that overwhelms the drainage when opened.

Pooling of Water In the Folds of the Tent

When we designed V2, we increased the gap between the upper and lower tent frame by 0.25". We did this to make closing the tent easier. That increased gap works great for its intended purpose but it also allows water to accumulate in the folds of the tent under certain conditions. That water then drains through the door and window openings of the fabric and into the tent interior (not good).

As of this week all campers going out the door have a perimeter bulb seal applied to the underside of the upper tent beam that prevents water from accumulating in the folds of the tent. For campers built prior to this update, we will soon have a Weatherizing Update Kit available for free that will include these seals.

Roof Beam Drainage

Our roof design uses a floating honeycomb panel that is not fully sealed to the frame. Water is intentionally allowed to get past the roof panel where it’s trapped by a trough and then channeled away via drains to the outside of the camper. We do this because it holds up better to the impacts and vibrations of off-road use (we used the same concept on V1s as well). However, we’ve found that these beams can drain too slowly. What’s happening is that water accumulates on the roof, seeps into the beams as intended, but sometimes does so faster than it’s draining out. This results in a layer of water in the beam that rushes forward when the tent is opened (like an internal water slide). This water slams into the front corner with enough pressure that it overwhelms the drain and forces its way through the corner junction and dumps water right at the most vulnerable part of the tent (the corners).

Again, as of this week, all campers going out the door have additional drains added to the side beams. But we’ve made a few more changes just to add an additional level of protection. We’re now adding sealant to the small gaps at the corners of the roof. Those gaps are intentional as they’re required to give the outer cap enough clearance to come on and off and allow for flexing of the roof frame off-road. We weren’t initially concerned about them because we thought we had sufficient drainage in the beam. But there’s no good reason not to put some sealant on them so we’re now doing so. We’ve also begun sealing the corners of the tent with a revised fabric design and for earlier tents a synthetic rubber sealant.

For campers that have already been installed, the Weatherizing Update Kit mentioned earlier will also include sealant for the roof gaps, tent corners, and a drill fixture to make adding the extra drainage easy. Again, this is free of charge and if you can bring us your camper, our Service Team can do it for you.

How to Get the Kit

If you have any issue of any kind with your camper, we ask that you submit a request via the Service Request Form and our Service Team will help you out. We’ll be contacting everyone who has reported this issue and will get them lined out with an update kit or a service appointment.

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Yea!!! I was not looking forward to a wet bed.

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Happy to get you some “semi-retirement” peace of mind, Sam. The team is stoked to see you in February!

@BigMikeOfficial, Just got mine installed today and noticed the additional drain holes and watched you install the bulb seal! Will mine also have the additional sealant mentioned as well as either the updated fabric design or synthetic rubber sealant?

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We will need a video or soomething to show us what exactly we will do with kit.Etc etc.

Great news and great work. I’ll be up in February for my install and making my way back home to Santa Cruz via the PNW to get in some steelhead fishing and shakedown the V2. Very happy to hear I no longer need to worry about a bet wetting issue.

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I’m not a part of the service department anymore (one of the ones spearheading this solution) so I do not have anymore information that what was involved in the newly implemented procedures. I can say that we have your back though and should be releasing that information soon. It takes longer than most people think not only to assess a problem, verify and the think of a solution but also to test it, redesign it, test it again etc. then you have to figure out how to apply or distribute the solution as well in a way that is viable for both company and customer. Having run the mobile PIT tour for close to a year I can say that we won’t ever leave you guys high and dry (though it sounds like that is exactly what you all want in the most literally sense of the phrase haha!)

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@GFC I have tools and know how where would these extra drain holes be located?

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So he’s a comedian too? Thanks @BigMikeOfficial!

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I want to add a comment that was posted on my now defunct thread related specifically to the remedial action plan listed above:

  • I already sealed my tent’s sides with weatherstrip and that DID NOT have any impact on the pooling of water in the tent fabric in back of the camper which is flowing downhill from the front of the tent platform.
  • I can look inside the tent WITHOUT opening it since the cushions are out and see the water pooling in there discrediting any idea that intrusion comes from opening the tent. Water is getting in without opening the tent - 100% proven through isolating variables and testing one thing at a time between rain events.

The issue is coming from somewhere in the front corners of the tent and leak WHILE CLOSED. Plenty of water in the tent without ever opening it WITH seals on the edges. Concerned we may still be looking for more root causes after drilling these holes but I hope to be surprised.

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Another break in the rain today - so went to do some inspection.

I got up close and personal with the front corner and short of disassembling the tent to reverse engineer it (which I won’t do) - I see two likely culprits for where my water is coming from. I think we have discussed both of these on other threads but I again worry the 2 solutions are not going to cover these particular issues.

  1. The hinge ends

It appears to me that there are continuous gaps from the roof of the camper to the bottom inside of the tent opening. At the bottom of the opening is where the daylight hole into the tent material is. Water pooling on the front end of the camper is almost certainly going through the hinge channel and settling near where I am seeing water get into the sleep platform area. I can slide a piece of paper into this gap so I know it is not stopping water at all. No additional drainage holes will prevent this unless they are right at the bottom of the lower silver hinge - even then I doubt that would solve it completely


Blue is path of water, red arrow is hole into tent on either side of camper.


Yellow is clearly the opening in the tent, in blue you see ACTUAL puddling of water as well as the theoretical path of the water that comes through the roof. Red - just for fun is where I originally ran the weather strip and you can see closing the tent pushed it back out of that location.


Same thing, other side - redundant photo

  1. The roof panel corners

There are gaps in the roof corners. The extrusions are shorter than they could be - not clear if this is intentional or not, but because there is a gap created in two dimensions, there is actually a square hole about 1/8" square that goes straight into the problem corner of the tent. So far as I have been able to tell from inside the tent, there is not moisture coming down the inside of the tent walls in the front. Without knowing where this hole goes, I cannot say if it is impacting the inside of the tent or getting caught in designed drainage. Just wanted to point this out because it seems like as likely a culprit as any.


Blue is the little 1/8" hole, red points to it :wink:

My next test will be using a little food coloring in water and trying different colored waters at different points I believe are leaking. Should be able to determine by which color of water is getting into the tent area which is the culprit. If I use red and blue and get purple inside…

The last thing I want to point out which is the first time I am noticing it and I can’t definitively say happened before or after I put the tent side weather stripping in - is that there is water collecting in the small tent window covers. I also can’t say if that happened while opened or closed because I can’t check those while closed. Here are a couple photos:


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Is it conceivable that this could happen without opening the tent, e.g. if parked with the roof closed on a slight incline in heavy rain? Or even just in heavy rain not on an incline? E.g. the 6-9" in 72 hours we’ve had in the PNW recently?

@the_philxx any chance that might have something to do with what you’re experiencing?

Also @the_philxx have you tried isolating suspected vulnerability points using a hose to see if you get intrusion when a steady stream of water is directed locally at a certain spot?

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So for starters - I am always on an incline because my driveway is not flat. I park nose down, I get water in the tailgate. I park nose up, I get water in the sleeping area. It is not a crazy incline - but it is what I got and I don’t think flat ground should be a requirement for an off-road thing…

I have not tried isolating anything yet but I plan to once I have some time and a dry weekend.

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Gotchya. And yea, to be clear I was not suggesting you should park flat, was just wondering if the issue GFC described above with roof beam overflow may occur all the time in sufficiently wet conditions, not just when the roof is opened. A hose test may help reveal things. Hopefully we got a nice dry spot today and this weekend.

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110% water is coming in without opening the tent. I have proven that - and because I already sealed my tent sides, my hypothesis again is that there is yet another issue other than the two identified above.

That said - I will try those two first and then if the issue continues, submit a new ticket to support and continue to work with the awesome GFC team to make my tent better while hopefully making everyone’s experience a little better! Continuous product improvement is a cool thing!

***EDIT - they are updating the original post, so references to it such as this one are misleading. They seem to be taking seriously the feedback. I for one really appreciate that!

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Hey @the_philxx since you’re able to look up into the tent while closed, do you see water beads forming all along the white honeycomb panel?

With the nose pointed uphill, I see water pooling on the honeycomb on the left and right hand side of the hinge on the front of the tent. The water then rolls downhill to where the tent is hanging through the floor.

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Really happy to know that GFC is listening to folks about flaws in the initial design. I’m really stoked things are getting fixed and even more happy I’ll be picking up my canopy in January with a lot of these bugs being worked out. Thanks for listening and finding solutions.

For any of those wanting to get a jump start before the diy kit, got this from GFC. @blackhearse fyi

“We do not want customers drilling into their campers without drill jigs. As a result, we have been working on drill jigs over the past couples of weeks to include with the kit along with precise drill bits to ensure the job is done correctly. The drill hole locations are located in vital areas, which could result in other parts of the camper becoming damaged if the exact drill locations are not adhered to. So please wait on our kit”

Looks I’ll be waiting as I don’t want to impact warranty (or f it up in general)

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